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Bolt On Hard Tail
mtnbiker66Iride full squish on trails and hartail on street. a2psyklnutI don't like the Sugar, nor hardly ANY Gary Fisher. Concession made to stoker though in a suspension post fitted. Hard tail vs Full suspension
Hard tail vs Full suspension phantomcow2The MTB forum seems far too quiet. However, hardtails can downhill and freeride as well, just requiring more skills. Here we go, you asked for a pic. Hard Tail vs Full Suspension, and dont sit on the fence, pick a damn side. Once I factored in the 100% error rate for my estimate, we were right on target. Think you got it backwards, mate. Dean at ATC Racing custom built the fork for us. What can I say, I'm getting older and the HT is starting to hurt. Nothing beats the acceleration of a hardtail, especially when you are in the middle of a race and can't stand any lost power. I am far removed from what happens back there, but my wife never complains. I can't say how many times I hit the brakes on a corner because I though I free dvd decoder plug ins was going sideways or had a flat in the rear. Yeah I remember asking for a pic before. On most trails, they usually break even, with hardtails pedalling slightly (or much) better. even compared to a 5th element stumpjumper476True, but whenever I ride my brother HT ('04 Hardrock) I just feel so nervous riding it too hard, the back feels like it's going to snap over every little rock. Doesn't seem to need some newfangled shock crate barrel side table to work properly either. Those are the fastest XC bikes out there, and I came close to buying one myself, but your ass just turns to jelly after a while, and the best bikes are full, and you can't deny that. Specializedridei like the clip-ins in the front for trial riding and platforms on the back for downhilling and hucking. nice setup I have little Shimanos up front for me, and my wife has the 636's (DH clip-ins) in back. So, I buy them! I voted Dual squish clip movie sound tv because while you should learn your skills on a hardtail after enough time HT's just start to beat you up too badly. I like the feeling of pushing the pedal and the bike going forward and not down because of the suspension. We were going to get the Cannondale tandem, but they were spec'd pretty crappy for AU$5k. hebrew_riderthis should be a sticky BrianHad to vote for FS. :D Specializedridehardtail expect for 35 foot drops phantomcow2You've seen it before. Currently looking for a 100-110mm ti business contract own write stem. Nearly every nut, bolt or fastener is titanium as well. gay naked old man Why is it that the biggest defence of ht lovers is this sudden lack of leg bending when you start riding a dually. Specialize bikes however always felt "Right" to me. The very long wheelbase makes it heaps fun to bomb down trails. Oh, I also got some SRAM 9 speed for it too. They do a pretty good job of soaking up what the front suspension doesn't. Cornish_Rdr_UKSteel Hardtails rule! Definitely. hooliganI'll say Hardtail just because, from what I've seen and done, hardtail is better at street and dirt jumping, as well as overall not so rough trails. I'll ride trails today on my 5&5 rig. Street riding on a small HT frame is a blast but I pay for it. In a previous thread I explained why titanium rotors are a bad idea. The geometries just never felt good for me and my body dimensions. 02 snoopz666FS for me, i used to grade four spelling words ride a hardtail, but as soon as i went to my fs i hardly ever rode hardtail again jz19Hardtail for me too and soon to be a steel one. The frame I gave my wife has a Horst linkage. some fr type trailseither depending on my goal streeteither depending on the size of my gonads that day :) MaelstromThink you got it backwards, mate. phantomcow2You answered the question correctly :) jeff williamsWhat are the vs. And as Stapfam stated, we do have certain advantages on a tandem, in dirt or on the road. Incidentally Dale Mt2000 frame Boxer Race forks with heavier springs and a bit of setting up for the tandem, Hope M4 Mono brakes with 200mm discs, and Hope big un hubs with mavic EX729 under age sex video rims and 36 spokes, Mainly XT, and downhill specific bars and other fitments I still ride solo, and its Hardtail for me with an "older Bianchi" Cornish_Rdr_UKDefinitely. The front ones actually seized up, and shot out during a group ride. Thus, their bikes always felt horrible when I rode them. Not that she's ever complained. I also have distain for Genesis Geometry. stapfamQUOTE=ExpatriateYou've seen it before. That is a beasty machine, i like it. But I can't tell you how many times I saw guys on a ht on schelyer getting the ass kicked because they didn't have a little suspension to help them out. We rode home on a single weak rear brake. Ready to buy? Check out these two online bike stores: (you can find the latest bike nashbar coupons in this thread)
(you can find the latest performance bike coupons in this thread) jeff williamsAnd a steel one at that. Gives her a bit more room to "dance" back there, while I'm either in our out. I have these things halfway down my legs, big joints called knees. courses) whether it be in sheer speed, or handling over rough ground. What fork is up front and do you have a pic? Agreed 100%. Do I wind up feeling it later, yes but no pain, no game. 90 was too short, 120 creates a bit more excitement than I'd like. It's not that I feel we need the suspension, I just think my wife deserves a smoother ride back there. Plus, my wife always rides with me. Same with disc brakes imo :) You've seen it before. igno-mtbI don't like the Sugar, nor hardly ANY Gary Fisher. :) BrianWe've got Magura Hydraulics physical requirement job description for it, I've just got to order the stainless braided lines, and then we need to swap the fork for a Marzocchi DJ when we travel. Brianheh, i didnt even notice the pedal setup. phantomcow2heh, i didnt even notice the pedal setup. Plus, I think GF suspension design is poor. I have to admit the a FR what to wear in south beach FS has saved a few of my bones for hard landings but I will still take a ht over it. BrianI'm a big fan of a Horst four bar or modified Horst (like Kona's Rocker arm, with Horst chainstay pivots) vs. How much does that monster weigh? DHMudRunnerI would have to go with hardtail for everything except for the big drops. phantomcow2Yay my post was revived :) stumpjumper476Damn I sorrounded by you hardtaillers. Weight wasn't the primary concern, a compliant ride was. tell me if im wrong at this point. . hahaha Actually I have no problem riding the extremly rough stuff on a hardtail. when the going gets rough you CAN'T move your legs fast enough in a suspension motion so you can get stuck with chatter. Dean at ATC Racing custom built the fork for us. a carbon seat stay that flexes in lieu of a pivot. My Cannondale has about 3 inches up front, and I really enjoy that ragged edge feeling I get when I push it in the rough. Hardtails- XC, DJ, mountain-cross, getting across town Full- Hardcore XC, Hardcore freeride, and Downhill phantomcow2yea but blazer body dropped project your legs are the most sophisticated suspension out there. I don't have anything against the Cannondale, but we need the S&S couplers for travel. I'll take a properly tuned front suspension over a full squishy any day. This is an archived thread, you can find the full version of this thread, with images, links and more content here. I had some custom ones made up, and they lasted 220km before they wore and destroyed two sets of pads. SmashyI think he means in truly rough situations (I can think of a couple of trails where only the best ht riders could survive without getting bounced). igno-mtbwell i think that fot people on a budget or something like that (as me) is us government printing office better to get a good ht rather than a cheap fs bike. Generally, I think in Downhill and Freeride, hardtails are acceptable, but Duallies are preferred. Same with disc brakes imo :) BrianThats cool. Why is it that the biggest defence of ht lovers is this sudden lack of leg bending when you start riding a dually. There are definately people that have the reaction time to handle it at speed. Good duallies eliminate this WITH the use of your knees and suspension. Now go edit the link in your thread so we can see your photo. Polls eventually wear out of interest. .
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